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Why Paying to Guest on a Podcast Is a Waste of Money
The truth about pay-to-play shows (and what actually works instead).
Someone pitched me their podcast last week. The hook? "Only $500 to be featured on our show with 50,000 downloads per episode."
I didn't respond.
Here's why: if a podcast has 50,000 real downloads and real engagement, they don't need to charge guests to appear. They'd have sponsors lining up and a waitlist of experts begging to be on the show.
When a podcast charges guests, it's not a show. It's a vanity service. And you're about to pay for exposure that doesn't exist.
Let me break down exactly why paying to guest on podcasts is a waste of your money, your credibility, and your time.
What's inside today:
The 8 reasons pay-to-play podcasts don't work
How to spot a pay-to-play scheme from a mile away
Why your money is better spent literally anywhere else
Why Paying to Guest on a Podcast Is a Waste of Money
You want visibility, credibility, and the ability to reach new audiences without doing all the hard work of building your own platform from scratch.
So when someone offers you a "shortcut" where you just pay a fee and be featured on a podcast with "thousands of listeners," it sounds very tempting.
It’s important not to fall for these types of schemes because most of them are just that, and to do your research before saying yes. Also, take a read through my last piece on What Makes a Podcast Worth Paying For? for further guidance.
Here are 8 reasons why paying to guest on podcasts is one of the worst investments you can make in your marketing strategy.
8 Reasons Pay-to-Play Doesn't Always Work
Let me save you hundreds or even thousands of dollars by explaining exactly what you're really paying for, in more cases than not, when you buy your way to be a guest on a podcast.
1. The download numbers are inflated or completely fake.
Most pay-to-play podcasts use bots, fake streams, or deceptive metrics to create the illusion of a large audience. They know you won't (and in some cases, cannot) verify the numbers, so they claim whatever sounds the most impressive. This is where it is important to keep in mind that the average podcast receives a few dozen downloads in any given month, and not the thousands that people often throw around.
Even if the downloads are "real," they're often from podcast apps auto-downloading episodes that sometimes people don’t actually listen to. Downloads do not always equal quality listeners, and listeners do not equal engaged audience members who care about what you have to say.
2. The audience isn't engaged because the content isn't curated.
Real podcasts book guests because they will provide a certain level of value to their audience. Pay-to-play shows book guests based on the fact that they paid a fee. Audiences listen to podcasts based on trust, value, and interest.
This means the content is almost always a random grab bag of whoever wrote a check that week. There's no coherent theme, no audience-first curation, and no reason for listeners to care about your episode specifically.
3. There's zero incentive for the host to promote your episode.
When you appear on a legitimate podcast, the host promotes your episode because it reflects on their brand and serves their audience. They want people to listen to the episode because it can build your book of business, and it builds their show.
Pay-to-play hosts already got paid when you handed over your money. They have zero incentive to promote your episode, share it on social media, or do anything beyond the bare minimum of simply publishing it. I’ve heard tons of horror stories also around hosts recording episodes with paying guests and never actually publishing the episode in the end.
4. You're funding a business model built on exploiting guests, not serving audiences.
These shows make money from guest fees, not sponsorships, affiliate deals, or listener support. That tells you everything you need to know about where the real value is.
If the show can't monetize through traditional channels, it's because the audience isn't real, engaged, or valuable. You're paying to prop up a failing show that has no reason to exist beyond extracting money from hopeful guests.
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5. It damages your credibility when people find out.
People talk, and guests compare notes. Hosts also brag about their revenue models in entrepreneurship groups. When your industry discovers you paid for podcast appearances, it really signals desperation. It says, "I couldn't earn a spot on merit, so I bought access." That's not always the message you want associated with your brand.
6. The ROI is nonexistent.
I've spoken to a good number of people who have paid for podcast appearances. I have yet to hear of any meaningful results or outcomes from doing so. Even a new email subscriber could be a win for a small business.
The "exposure" they were promised turned out to be a recording that lives in obscurity with single-digit listens and zero engagement.
7. You're competing with other guests who also paid.
Legitimate podcasts space out guests strategically to maximize value for each one. Pay-to-play shows stack guests as quickly as possible because more guests equal more revenue.
Your episode will more than likely get buried in a flood of other paid appearances that are all competing for the same audience's (or lack thereof) attention. Your episode should stand out and be valuable to the audience it intends to reach.
8. Your time and money would get better results literally anywhere else.
For the $300-1000 you'd spend on a pay-to-play appearance, you could run targeted ads to your ideal clients, invest in your own content creation, hire a podcast pitch strategist or a video editor, or build your own show. All of those options would deliver much better ROI in the long run.
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How to Spot Pay-to-Play Schemes
Not all paid podcast opportunities are obvious scams. Some disguise themselves as "premium placement" or "sponsored guest spots." Here's how to identify them before you waste your money.
Red Flag #1: They pitch you before you pitch them.
Legitimate podcasts don't cold email strangers asking them to pay for guest appearances. If someone you've never interacted with offers you a "featured guest opportunity" for a fee, please run. Sponsorship opportunities are a different type of communication, and you will want to do your due diligence to see if these are a benefit to you.
Red Flag #2: The fee is framed as "production costs," “operational costs,” or "promotion."
Some shows try to soften the blow by claiming the fee covers editing, show notes, or promotional efforts. Real podcasts absorb these costs as part of running a show because that's what hosting a podcast means. As a guest, you should not be paying explicitly for any of these associated costs. Just think if you went to a restaurant and they asked you to pay to wash the dishes and cook your own meal. Doesn’t make sense, right?
Ask for demographic data, engagement rates, conversion examples, or listener testimonials. If they dodge the question, give vague answers, or only share total download numbers, the audience isn't real.
A podcast with 50,000 downloads per episode should have social media posts with a few dozen or hundreds of comments, shares, and engagement. If their Instagram posts get zero likes, the downloads are fake, or they are not putting as much into promoting the episodes as they say.
Red Flag #5: Every episode is a different guest with no coherent theme.
Scroll through their episode list. If it's a random assortment of real estate agents, life coaches, marketing consultants, and cryptocurrency experts with no unifying thread, it's a pay-to-play show.
I will talk more about what legit podcast guesting looks like and what you can be doing instead of considering paying to be a guest in the next edition. In the meantime, don't let desperation for exposure lead you into wasting money on pay-to-play schemes.
If you need help getting booked on real podcasts that actually serve your goals, my calendar is open. Book your 1:1 30-minute session today.
Talk soon,
—Danni White (connect with me on LinkedIn)